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		<title>Comment on 1-2-11 Tweet that, Tim Tebow! by Skip Johnston</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/2012/01/07/1-2-11-tweet-that-tim-tebow/comment-page-1/#comment-32107</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back, Martha!

Thomas a’ Kempis wrote in the 15th century, “Many follow Jesus that they may eat of His loaves, but few that they may drink of the cup of his passion.” OK, Thomas’ theology was a dour brand of medieval Catholicism but the Jesus bug genuinely bit him. Seems we’ve forever got our lanterns out, looking for an honest person.

I’m skeptical of anyone who wears their Christianity on their sleeve. What are they selling? Since Constantine, Christianity has been used in the branding of just about every political scheme the Western world has been able to come up with. Things go better with Christ! But when you read the Jesus story, the folks he consistently goes after are those who use their religion as a political tool. Pharisee-ism: It’s not just for ancient temple worshippers anymore. 

But to get back to what Thomas said (and if I can use a personal anecdote as a metaphor). My dad was a veteran of WWII. He wouldn’t talk about the war. He wouldn’t allow our mother to say much about what he’d done either. (Disallowing Mom anything was usually a useless gesture. But that’s another story.) So at his funeral, when Mom’s mostly observed obligation was completed, I was astonished to hear Dad had been highly decorated. He had been proud of his service and loved his country. But, knowing him as I did, I realized that the war’s experience overwhelmed him. He just couldn’t find the words. I think it’s this experience of being overwhelmed that Thomas is referring to when he writes of Jesus’ passion. God overwhelmed Jesus. So much so that the only way Christian theology can express it is by saying that Jesus IS God.

People who’ve been overwhelmed by God—even a little bit, like Ben and Anna Wyse— rarely wear their Christianity on their sleeves. They tend to speak softly about it. Live their lives through it. They may be eager to share if you’re interested but they don’t want to overwhelm you. 

Frankly, if Jesus ran for office, he’d never get elected. We want our candidates to make us feel warm and fuzzy, suck up to us, hate the things we hate, be one of us. They wear the “J” brand the way they think those they’re trying to sell do. It’s a comfy, self-righteous place to be.  

But the real Jesus would overwhelm us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back, Martha!</p>
<p>Thomas a’ Kempis wrote in the 15th century, “Many follow Jesus that they may eat of His loaves, but few that they may drink of the cup of his passion.” OK, Thomas’ theology was a dour brand of medieval Catholicism but the Jesus bug genuinely bit him. Seems we’ve forever got our lanterns out, looking for an honest person.</p>
<p>I’m skeptical of anyone who wears their Christianity on their sleeve. What are they selling? Since Constantine, Christianity has been used in the branding of just about every political scheme the Western world has been able to come up with. Things go better with Christ! But when you read the Jesus story, the folks he consistently goes after are those who use their religion as a political tool. Pharisee-ism: It’s not just for ancient temple worshippers anymore. </p>
<p>But to get back to what Thomas said (and if I can use a personal anecdote as a metaphor). My dad was a veteran of WWII. He wouldn’t talk about the war. He wouldn’t allow our mother to say much about what he’d done either. (Disallowing Mom anything was usually a useless gesture. But that’s another story.) So at his funeral, when Mom’s mostly observed obligation was completed, I was astonished to hear Dad had been highly decorated. He had been proud of his service and loved his country. But, knowing him as I did, I realized that the war’s experience overwhelmed him. He just couldn’t find the words. I think it’s this experience of being overwhelmed that Thomas is referring to when he writes of Jesus’ passion. God overwhelmed Jesus. So much so that the only way Christian theology can express it is by saying that Jesus IS God.</p>
<p>People who’ve been overwhelmed by God—even a little bit, like Ben and Anna Wyse— rarely wear their Christianity on their sleeves. They tend to speak softly about it. Live their lives through it. They may be eager to share if you’re interested but they don’t want to overwhelm you. </p>
<p>Frankly, if Jesus ran for office, he’d never get elected. We want our candidates to make us feel warm and fuzzy, suck up to us, hate the things we hate, be one of us. They wear the “J” brand the way they think those they’re trying to sell do. It’s a comfy, self-righteous place to be.  </p>
<p>But the real Jesus would overwhelm us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 12 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We, who follow Christ&#039;s teaching know by experience the brotherhood of all believers, functioning within the framework of the local gatherings as members each in particular under the guidance and direction of Him as the only Head.  Each being gifted by the Holy Spirit to aid in the self edification through mutual love, caring about others more than ourselves, at least trying too.  Absolutely amazing activity when all members working to strengthen the others for their daily personal struggles in this society endeavoring to be godly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, who follow Christ&#8217;s teaching know by experience the brotherhood of all believers, functioning within the framework of the local gatherings as members each in particular under the guidance and direction of Him as the only Head.  Each being gifted by the Holy Spirit to aid in the self edification through mutual love, caring about others more than ourselves, at least trying too.  Absolutely amazing activity when all members working to strengthen the others for their daily personal struggles in this society endeavoring to be godly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 11 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/why-cant/comment-page-1/#comment-31583</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you knew of His teaching regarding Himself, you would be with Him or against Him, most are with Him for His acceptance of all, unconditional love for all, power to restore, heal, save.  Few want to follow His example of surrendering personal will.  But if He is not really who He claimed to be, well then He lied, and nobody should be &#039;in&#039; to being a liar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you knew of His teaching regarding Himself, you would be with Him or against Him, most are with Him for His acceptance of all, unconditional love for all, power to restore, heal, save.  Few want to follow His example of surrendering personal will.  But if He is not really who He claimed to be, well then He lied, and nobody should be &#8216;in&#8217; to being a liar!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 10 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/question-10/comment-page-1/#comment-31582</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should at the least pay property taxes, and not qualify for &#039;non-profit&#039; status!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Question 9 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/question-9/comment-page-1/#comment-31581</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely necessary as part of our lives, howevere minute!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Question 8 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/whats-the-place-of-tolerance-and-broadmindedness-in-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-31515</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recognition of differences is not the same as tolerating to the perceived point of acceptance, then approval then given right circumstances, engagement in that which was once abhorred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recognition of differences is not the same as tolerating to the perceived point of acceptance, then approval then given right circumstances, engagement in that which was once abhorred.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 7 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bible is extremely clear about, our fear of it causes the &#039;fight or flight&#039;, most ending with the &#039;flight&#039;, putting it at great distance, either in time or perception, nevertheless, we will depart this planet.  A great promise of NT is being able to be &#039;set free from the fear of dying, which fear holds us like prisoners..&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bible is extremely clear about, our fear of it causes the &#8216;fight or flight&#8217;, most ending with the &#8216;flight&#8217;, putting it at great distance, either in time or perception, nevertheless, we will depart this planet.  A great promise of NT is being able to be &#8217;set free from the fear of dying, which fear holds us like prisoners..&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 6 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worship, as indicated by Christ, in John 4, must be in spirit and truth!  Worship for me is not just being thankful for blessings etc, for which we could all be most of the time, but worship is adoration of who God is, not just what He has done. God has only ever done what He is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worship, as indicated by Christ, in John 4, must be in spirit and truth!  Worship for me is not just being thankful for blessings etc, for which we could all be most of the time, but worship is adoration of who God is, not just what He has done. God has only ever done what He is!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 5 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/question-5/comment-page-1/#comment-31512</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Organized churches will continue to lose regular attendees, many will close, gatherings will continue though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organized churches will continue to lose regular attendees, many will close, gatherings will continue though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Question 4 by Douglas A. Torok</title>
		<link>http://faithunboxed.virginiajournal.org/question-4/comment-page-1/#comment-31437</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas A. Torok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having personal faith requires little courage, but &#039;walking by faith&#039; in this  ever growing &#039;easily offended&#039; world, that requires courage. The world demands your silence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having personal faith requires little courage, but &#8216;walking by faith&#8217; in this  ever growing &#8216;easily offended&#8217; world, that requires courage. The world demands your silence!</p>
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